vg|Schapiro Spring 4s,Final - seg 3,I,1,40,Liggins,28,Wolfarth,19| rs|,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,3DSx-2,3DSx-2,2HW+1,3HW=,6SN=,6SN=,4SSx=,4SS=,PASS,2SS=,6SS+1,6SS=,3HS+1,2SW-1,3DN=,3NS=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,| pn|Rosen,Hyett,Jones,Wolfarth,Kovachev,McIntosh,Isporski,Hallberg|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJH6DKQJ743CJT432,S9842HT3DAT92CK76,SK765HKQ987D86CQ9,SAQT3HAJ542D5CA85|sv|o|nt|jtr: Wolfarth did well to bid 3@c rather that pass|pg|| nt|brolucius: North had a 10-count, so he had to choose between 3@D (a bit limp) and a bold 3NT.|pg|| nt|lesrays: Geoff's enterprise often serves them very well|pg|| nt|jtr: not that he shouldnt of course|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|steshome: Wolfie's team score well in extra time ... well they did against us anyway ... :-(|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2NT would be a poor effort on the South cards, with such good diamonds.|pg|| pc|hT|nt|jtr: same auction @s lead would work well|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|jtr: but impossible to find |pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|brolucius: All roads lead to 300, so a flat board.|pg|| nt|jtr: @cs as trump substitutes|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJH6DKQJ743CJT432,S9842HT3DAT92CK76,SK765HKQ987D86CQ9,SAQT3HAJ542D5CA85|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|toukie: We See McIntosh & Hallberg for the first time in the Closed Room|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy: 3@D Xbld here|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello Vladimir and all |pg|| nt|toukie: Isporski & Koverchev are back for another set|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|toukie: So we have the four foreigners on display :)|pg|| nt|mdgraham: it's almost like watching Chelsea|pg|| pc|hA|nt|xenya: hello everyone -- Shirley |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good afternoon and welcome back to Stratford-upon-Avon in England for the annual Schapiro Spring Foursomes. Semi-finals, four segments of 8 boards. This is the third|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Shirley Ybarra, USA, Vladimir Ivanov, Russia, Victor Silverstone and David Burn, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|sybarra: 4 non-UK |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Not quite|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Scotland is part of the UK|pg|| nt|mdgraham: or Arsenal, rather|pg|| nt|toukie: Although McIntosh and Hallberg are English residents and have played for England|pg|| nt|toukie: This is an ENGLISH tournament :)|pg|| nt|toukie: Not a British one.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|nt|toukie: Although all nationalities are welcome to take part.|pg|| nt|j_bgood: but foreigners are allowed to play - even FOR England|pg|| nt|mdgraham: a long as they pass the entrance exam |pg|| nt|toukie: In fact the ideal format is for 64 teams |pg|| nt|toukie: There were only 46 this year.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|sybarra: looks comfortable spot (low) here |pg|| nt|toukie: So if any of you specs would like to comme and play next year please do.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|mdgraham: better watch out, Dave - Muller isn't exactly an English name :)|pg|| nt|mdgraham: and mine is more Scottish than English |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|h7|nt|mdgraham: this is drfiting a couple off |pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|nt|xenya: yes -- a quiet start|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJT76HK2DKT94CKJT,SA2HAQ8763D85CQ82,SQ85HT5DA62CA7654,SK943HJ94DQJ73C93|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Not a nice opeing in this position|pg|| nt|brolucius: As I mentioned in the semi-finals, Geoffrey Wolfarth has a very strong record in this event recently. He was seeded only 10th or 11th. Next year the seeders will have to revise ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: their ideas.|pg|| nt|jtr: opening|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|jtr: A much more comfortable contract at this table|pg|| nt|steshome: I think all the commentators could make this one too ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: Something to be said for a 2@H raise, rather than a NF 1@S, even if you play 4-card majors.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to another member of the England Ladies Team (Sarah is already here): Bryony Youngs|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: 2@h is not natural|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: "bazzingly bonkers" from Hyett|pg|| nt|bryony: Hi|pg|| nt|lesrays: David muller was saying earlier that the seeding decision had not been unanimous. Also, Geoff did not play last year - his team played without him and got to the final. This year ...|pg|| nt|lesrays: he has a new partner but the same team-mates as the last 2 years|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: Who or what is "bazzingly bonkers", according to Hyett?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: not having a natural 2@H here|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Walddk2: Oh, thought the seeding|pg|| nt|jtr: By responder?|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: nope, their system !|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|brolucius: If he is referring to his 2@H rebid, I saw plenty of more bonkers bids than that in the semi-final.|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|s7|nt|brolucius: One of them was a 2@H bid too (costing 1100)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|h9|pc|cT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But he was knocked out as a result|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Learning it the hard way|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c6|nt|brolucius: If, instead, Hyett is referring to the seeding committee, he can expect something around 29 next year.|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: nope- players not mentioned seeding once|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They do not seed beyond 16|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJT76HK2DKT94CKJT,SA2HAQ8763D85CQ82,SQ85HT5DA62CA7654,SK943HJ94DQJ73C93|sv|n|nt|xenya: but E did well to rebid @Ss -- was pass an option?|pg|| nt|sybarra: and no game makes here (again) |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: probably was |pg|| mb|1D|nt|sybarra: an option |pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|j_bgood: but 9 should come in easily enough|pg|| pc|s8|nt|sybarra: well they got there...not to make |pg|| nt|toukie: Well McIntosh & Hallberg have England flags so I guess they're English|pg|| pc|s3|nt|sybarra: not much friendly on this hand for declarer |pg|| nt|xenya: why not?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Victor Silverstone|pg|| nt|sybarra: not=now can they make |pg|| nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|sybarra: hello Victor @H |pg|| nt|Walddk4: And Mike Graham|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hi shirley- not often we see father v son|pg|| nt|xenya: if he plays @Hs correctly -- as he should i think...|pg|| nt|sybarra: Mike :)|pg|| nt|mdgraham: Hi Shirley, Victor|pg|| nt|xenya: hello Victor Mike|pg|| nt|sybarra: do tell us about them Victor |pg|| nt|mdgraham: HI Vladimir|pg|| nt|mdgraham: run the ten|pg|| nt|odysseus69: was David Jones always in Helle team- I suspect he is a sub because Van Nisselroy went home|pg|| nt|vugraphe2: Jones was (very) late sub for Henstra|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Martin had a successful partnership with the late John Collings - now going well with Neil Rosen- they won this last year|pg|| nt|mdgraham: can't trust the English, as my Granny used to say|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d8|nt|odysseus69: I always call the Dutch striker in the Helle team Van R - regularly he has to leave on Tuesday morning|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|j_bgood: my neighbour has an Australian flag - but she is Norwegian..|pg|| nt|toukie: This is set three of the four set final|pg|| nt|toukie: But there could be a twist at the finish|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|toukie: The Liggins team are undefeated, that gives them an extra privilege in the final.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|toukie: If they are behind after 32 boards that have the option of an exra eight boards|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|toukie: I can't see them not exercising their option.|pg|| nt|mdgraham: if they need to, certainly|pg|| nt|j_bgood: only if they are a zillion behind|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|toukie: So to win wolfarth have to be ahead after 32 boards, and also after 40 boards|pg|| nt|toukie: Don't ask me what happens if they are level after 32 :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mdgraham: but in the semi-final, if you are behind after 32 and 40, you are deemed to have lost twice, and are therefore out of the competition |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|xenya: ouch -- looked reasonble to play W for @H shortage i think|pg|| nt|sybarra: agree |pg|| nt|odysseus69: i assume that 15imps is the lead after 16 boards|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|nt|mdgraham: as I know to my cost|pg|| nt|toukie: They probably go to Bulgaria for the replay |pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SKJ65HAJ64D2CAKQT,SAHQ72DK54CJ87642,ST97432H8DAJ986C9,SQ8HKT953DQT73C53|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|steshome: 24 I think|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|brolucius: Yes, I recall that there is a random seeding of the lower half of the draw. Quite right.|pg|| mb|p|nt|bryony: Seeding to 32, I think|pg|| mb|4D|an|splinter|nt|bryony: with 33-48 random|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: That avoids the embarrassment of someone who has paid a stiff entry fee being seeded in last place. |pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|an|1/4|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I am never going to play there. I won't appreciate to be called "random"|pg|| mb|5H|an|Trump Q?|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Malcolm Prior tells me: seeding by selectors to 16, then 17-32 based on gold points, random therafter|pg|| mb|6S|an|Q with nothing else to show|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lesrays: when they bid the slam they have the 1@s to guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|lesrays: @s|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Same contract in the CR|pg|| nt|jtr: some slam to reach.....|pg|| nt|brolucius: Always fair when both sides reach (or stay out of) a borderline slam. |pg|| pc|d3|nt|jtr: normal to play to the J in case of AQx|pg|| nt|lesrays: bid and made in closed room|pg|| nt|jtr: not that you dont need something else if that is the case|pg|| nt|steshome: Yes I agree|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Certainly David G|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's much better to finesse the jack|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|nt|jtr: @c dropping or a squeeze|pg|| nt|brolucius: Unusually sound point by David G there. |pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|jtr: Excuse me while i faint:)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c2|pc|s2|nt|Walddk2: Too early, you are going to do the closing|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Then you can faint|pg|| nt|jtr: I nearly put feint just to annoy DB7|pg|| nt|brolucius: I issue about one compliment per session, so that is it from me.|pg|| nt|jtr: gee thanks R|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: Jones claiming|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: some discussion|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SKJ65HAJ64D2CAKQT,SAHQ72DK54CJ87642,ST97432H8DAJ986C9,SQ8HKT953DQT73C53|sv|e|nt|mdgraham: yes, thjat's right|pg|| nt|sybarra: mike are you on site? |pg|| nt|sybarra: or Victor? |pg|| nt|mdgraham: used to be four extra boards if a match was tied|pg|| mb|1C|an|Strong|mb|p|mb|1D|an|0-7|mb|p|mb|1H|an|Waiting|mb|p|mb|1S|an|Waiting|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: i am here - missed the start - connection problems- my computer does not like me to go on bridge sites during day- parental control|pg|| nt|mdgraham: "action" double from Rosen|pg|| nt|toukie: They don't go to Bulgaria then?|pg|| mb|2H|an|Transfer|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|j_bgood: almost impossible to bid this spade slam - or...|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: club king always offside today |pg|| nt|mdgraham: it's not singleton though|pg|| nt|sybarra: @C king off...another "non make" |pg|| mb|6S|nt|xenya: that was a somewhat unusual auction in my view -- 4@H, double and pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: well, he has @DK and four trumps, and knows pard has a strong hand |pg|| nt|j_bgood: not:)|pg|| nt|mdgraham: has to guess well|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: opposite Axxx spades slam is very good|pg|| nt|benjy: he didn't know what keycard his pd had when he bid 5@C|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sybarra: now just has to get right |pg|| nt|j_bgood: as he may go ome even if E has AQx of @s - he will not play a spade to tge king|pg|| nt|j_bgood: keyboard asks for a timeout|pg|| nt|sybarra: so is right play @S 10 and let it ride? or what |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: club best|pg|| nt|benjy: if east has AQx he is never making unless the J of @C comes down|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|mdgraham: think double showed spades as well|pg|| nt|sybarra: but the X came from the short side |pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|sT|nt|benjy: so he may go wrong|pg|| pc|s8|nt|mdgraham: yes, one trick short if that is so|pg|| nt|benjy: i think it's a guess|pg|| nt|benjy: place your bets now|pg|| nt|mdgraham: with a lot on the line|pg|| nt|j_bgood: well - i agree to a point - but the extra chance of clubs coming in makes me stick to the winning line'|pg|| nt|toukie: Gunnar Halbers has been 'capped' 4 times for Sweden and 3 timed for England|pg|| nt|benjy: that is true|pg|| nt|toukie: McIntosh and Hallberg have both played numerous times in European Open events, etc.|pg|| nt|benjy: then he would have to decide whether to hook the @C if the 10@S held|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| nt|sybarra: I think I heard the sigh of relief on this side of the atlantic |pg|| pc|h7|nt|mdgraham: this may tighten up the match|pg|| pc|s2|nt|toukie: But this is the first time I've seen them partnering each other|pg|| nt|j_bgood: yes - or try for KQx of @hs first |pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SQJ987643HAQ9DKC9,SKHK85DAQT97CAQ82,SAHJT76D8632CT754,ST52H432DJ54CKJ63|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Jones was happy to cue-bid his singleton heart, rating his hand as full value for a splinter. Also, the diamond cue-bid fitted his hand well.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bridge isn't fair; it's just impossible to go down in 4@S|pg|| nt|lesrays: 2 bids on this one?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Duly reached in the other room|pg|| mb|1D|nt|jtr: good news bad news|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: The might have picked up the hearts if there was a trump loser.|pg|| nt|jtr: @h finesse wrong but......|pg|| nt|lesrays: come on geoff, 1@s.....|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 1@D pass pass 3@S in the other room, raised to 4|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jtr: really?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Raised to 4??!|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Have a look|pg|| nt|jtr: 4@s looks right to me|pg|| nt|steshome: Bit much to expect a vul psyche, Steve ...|pg|| nt|jtr: by South|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: Rosen asks about x|pg|| nt|brolucius: "Just one good card for you, partner!"|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: Wolfarth- I must pass unless I reasonably expect to make|pg|| pc|dA|nt|lesrays: amazing view to raise 3 to 4 - saved them a bit - geoff needed to bid over the x|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jtr: Rosen wont be happy|pg|| nt|jtr: Yet|pg|| nt|brolucius: The Bulgarians obviously knew what they were doing in the Closed Room, if North even thought about raising to 4@S on his hand - let alone actually did so.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|jtr: Do we like the double?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|lesrays: only if it was taken out....|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|Walddk2: No, throw @SK away and realise that you are fixed|pg|| nt|brolucius: He was barely worth a take-out double when partner passed 1@D.|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If fixed, stary fixed is a good rule of thumb|pg|| nt|Walddk2: stay fixed|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jtr: why fixed Are we missing a slam when partner passes 1@d?|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SQJ987643HAQ9DKC9,SKHK85DAQT97CAQ82,SAHJT76D8632CT754,ST52H432DJ54CKJ63|sv|b|nt|sybarra: *good|pg|| nt|sybarra: 3 @d +1 |pg|| nt|odysseus69: sure to bid this slam|pg|| mb|1D|nt|benjy: although after 1@C 1@S 4@D north has a big hand, so it could be flat, who knows|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: or 3@D depending on your methods|pg|| nt|toukie: Isporski & Kovachev have been 'capped' once apiece for Bulgaria, in the 2000 Olympiad|pg|| nt|mdgraham: we shall see|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|j_bgood: I am impressed with the quality of the bridge in this final:)|pg|| nt|toukie: Both have played in the European Open's etc.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| nt|toukie: It's tough to get to this final.|pg|| nt|toukie: There are a lot of good teams to beat to get here.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|nt|toukie: The teams that make it are usually the ones that ar ein form|pg|| pc|d5|nt|mdgraham: think 3NT=serious slam try|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|toukie: So the standard of the final is usually very high|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|nt|sybarra: off to the races |pg|| pc|s6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|sybarra: or not |pg|| nt|odysseus69: only an accident can let anything go wrong - oops|pg|| nt|sybarra: accident was on the way to the race |pg|| nt|odysseus69: this is embarrasing|pg|| nt|xenya: very|pg|| nt|j_bgood: a very good/lucky/tough and successful raise to 4@s by N|pg|| nt|toukie: a little luckt this contract|pg|| nt|benjy: 6@S was flat. told you!|pg|| mc|10|nt|odysseus69: now my spelling is under attack- really my typing|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SK943HT73DJ86CA65,ST87HKQ84DA532CQ4,SQ652HAJDKT97CJT9,SAJH9652DQ4CK8732|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: That was my point. No errand|pg|| nt|brolucius: A vulnerable 4@D bid in 4th seat must be shown some respect. Look at the respect that North showed his partner's 3@S bid at the other table.|pg|| nt|brolucius: 4@S, I mean, of course.|pg|| nt|jtr: I think he was affected by the previous hand |pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: It all goes to show, you must assume that a bad board could be duplicated|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SK943HT73DJ86CA65,ST87HKQ84DA532CQ4,SQ652HAJDKT97CJT9,SAJH9652DQ4CK8732|sv|n|mb|1D|an|A|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mdgraham: yes, 1@C-1@S-4@D-4@H, etc.|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: slamming again |pg|| nt|mdgraham: there is a method of responses to 2NT whereby W can bid 4@D (or 4@C, or 3@S) to show a singleton|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this grand more difficult than last trivial small slam|pg|| nt|j_bgood: back to the partscores|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|mdgraham: meanwhile, here's one for NS|pg|| pc|sK|nt|toukie: This is still very low scoring.|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|sybarra: apparently not dificult |pg|| nt|odysseus69: he assumed a home for 3rd diamond- not unreasonable|pg|| pc|s3|nt|mdgraham: EW have a good save in 8@C, if only they could bid it|pg|| nt|sybarra: silly bidding boxes...no 8 level |pg|| nt|xenya: the last 2 boards may produce huge swings for the trailing team|pg|| nt|mdgraham: needs nine trump tricks , so guess will cross-ruff after one round of trumps |pg|| nt|sybarra: think we can just claim cant we? |pg|| nt|mdgraham: has to ruff the third diamond high |pg|| nt|odysseus69: luckily failure to lead spade does not cost|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|nt|mdgraham: in fact, the first three boards were all flat |pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: looks safe to ruff clubs with low spades|pg|| nt|toukie: Normally if you only conceded 28 imps in 19 boards you will be leading|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|mdgraham: ok now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: now banking on 4-3 hearts - not best|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAT9642HT7DAKQ76C,SKHJ942DT83CA7632,SQJ73HAK8D9CQT954,S85HQ653DJ542CKJ8|sv|e|nt|jtr: another one?|pg|| nt|jtr: Last hand of the stanza now people|pg|| nt|lesrays: don't think |pg|| nt|brolucius: North had 11 points and two 10-9 combinations. I am delighted to see that the hand was passed. If the reason for opening duff 11-counts has ever been given in public, I must have ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: missed it.|pg|| nt|jtr: Many thanks to the EBU for allowing us to present this event|pg|| nt|lesrays: cos you get +110|pg|| nt|jtr: and to the sponsor and semi founder helen Schapiro|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|jtr: our gratitude to our hard working and informative operator in Stratford, Ant Edwards Great job!|pg|| nt|jtr: and finally to my many excellent co-commentating people and peoplesses|pg|| mb|4C|an|splinter|nt|steshome: Good slam - what happened in the closed?|pg|| mb|p|nt|lesrays: nice hand opposite a 2NtT raise|pg|| mb|4H|an|cue|mb|p|mb|5N|an|GSF|mb|p|mb|6D|an|with Q, not A/K!S|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Excellent auction at this table. Well done!|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 5NT is presumably a Grand slam Try, asking partner to bid a grand with 2 of the three top trump honours.|pg|| nt|jtr: 6@d differentiating between the Q and K maybe?|pg|| nt|jtr: right|pg|| nt|brolucius: Many thanks to Ant (again) for the excellent explanations. |pg|| nt|jtr: nice methods for this hand|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|nt|jtr: we will restart after a short scoring-up break|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jtr: notice the hypen DB7:)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thanks all, see you soon for more|pg|| nt|brolucius: At the other table it was North who made a splinter bid (4@D). An equally efficient auction from the Bulgarians.|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAT9642HT7DAKQ76C,SKHJ942DT83CA7632,SQJ73HAK8D9CQT954,S85HQ653DJ542CKJ8|sv|e|mb|p|nt|benjy: more action!|pg|| mb|1C|an|A|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|j_bgood: Tosh loves the lone spade kings|pg|| mb|p|nt|mdgraham: East and South are not related |pg|| mb|2S|nt|xenya: On bd 19, Liggins was just very lucky to stop in 2@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: a strong club with the south hand is asking for trouble in my opinion|pg|| nt|sybarra: prefer having Rabbi with me for this one |pg|| nt|j_bgood: guess he might make this one|pg|| mb|4D|nt|xenya: gaining 6 (undesrved?) imps|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|sybarra: N make one more try? I think not |pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: which D Jones is South - not David? the pere?|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|nt|sybarra: oh well crystal ball been foggy all day |pg|| nt|j_bgood: well - he DOES have some hidden values|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|mdgraham: I think South is Daffyd Jones (pere) |pg|| nt|vugraphe2: This is David Jones of Coventry|pg|| nt|odysseus69: no - not Daffyd - he went home on Monday having played in Teltscher team|pg|| nt|vugraphe2: and Martin Jones of Coventry|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|sybarra: may chuckle when hand it over |pg|| nt|j_bgood: well done|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S3HT9754DAKQ3CQ95,SA9852HKD96CAJ874,SKQT6HAJ3D8742CT2,SJ74HQ862DJT5CK63|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: Hello Sarah and Steve|pg|| mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: We are a little ahead of schedule, so David x 2 are not here yet|pg|| mb|2H|an|!S & minor|nt|Walddk2: Here is one, David Greenwood|pg|| mb|2S|an|3 card !h raise, limit +|nt|jtr: Back and more with it now:)|pg|| nt|lesrays: Afternoon Roland, tight match|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Yes, anybody's match at this point|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: Hi Steve|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But it's a nice feeling for the Liggins team that they can extend the match if they are behind after 32 boards|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: Rosen asks about strenght of 2@H|pg|| nt|jtr: I would X then bid 3@h|pg|| nt|vugraphe1: Wolfarth is not sure, but thinks Weak or Strong|pg|| nt|lesrays: Hello, David, this match could be won or lost on under/overtricks at this point|pg|| pc|d9|nt|steshome: Hi all|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jtr: unless we catch them on the way of course|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jtr: would not have been a success here i think|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c2|nt|lesrays: better not to have played @c K?|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 23 and 24 first, then comparisons from the closed room when we get to board 17|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to David Bird|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S3HT9754DAKQ3CQ95,SA9852HKD96CAJ874,SKQT6HAJ3D8742CT2,SJ74HQ862DJT5CK63|sv|b|nt|sybarra: well dont to get there indeed|pg|| mb|1D|an|A|nt|mdgraham: ah|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|sybarra: not my favorite NT bid! |pg|| nt|benjy: 1@D a very strange choice|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: qx qx...!|pg|| nt|mdgraham: Harrison-Gray would approve|pg|| mb|p|nt|mdgraham: yes|pg|| nt|sybarra: "any 11" in a club system |pg|| pc|d2|nt|j_bgood: perhaps he degraded the bad @h suit to a 4 bagger|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| nt|mdgraham: opening 1@H gives you an easy rebid |pg|| nt|benjy: very hard to show your hand if you open 1@D with this collection imo|pg|| nt|mdgraham: and doesn't distort the suit lengths|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|mdgraham: In his book he says queens should be led up to, not through |pg|| nt|sybarra: but I should not argue with success I suppose |pg|| nt|mdgraham: last board coming up|pg|| nt|mdgraham: as surmised, the missed slam has cost 13 imps|pg|| nt|sybarra: Thanks very much to Ian Mitchel our operator in Stratford-up Avon. Great job!|pg|| nt|mdgraham: yes, thanks Ian, well done|pg|| nt|sybarra: Thanks also to my excellent co-commentators: Vladimir, Victor and Mike. Interesting insights and discussions. |pg|| nt|xenya: this might also be a great board for Helle|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|sybarra: Finally thanks to Mrs. Helen Schapiro for sponsoring the event, and to the English Bridge Union for bringing the broadcast to BBO |pg|| nt|mdgraham: Board 24?|pg|| nt|vugraphe2: Just coming now!|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|sybarra: Jaspn Chiu who has played withKovachev say he (K) prefers to bid his lead-directing suits at the one-level often|pg|| nt|j_bgood: well - if you "take a view" and it is correct - no criticism from me:)|pg|| nt|benjy: but how lead directing is 1@D in a precision system|pg|| nt|j_bgood: it is not - but a @h opening would certainly be..|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cA|nt|benjy: 2 imps to liggins|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAQ97HA4DAK86C743,S832HKJT65D4CKQ82,SKJ4H8732DQ952CA5,ST65HQ9DJT73CJT96|sv|o|nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|lesrays: 9 tricks in NT for NS|pg|| mb|3C!|an|pass/correct|nt|jtr: You missed a few hands David|pg|| nt|brolucius: This is a very tough event, with a great entry list. So, the finalists are to be congratulated, even if they fare poorly at the last hurdle.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: All commentators are abale to make 3NT here|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|an|clubs|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jtr: How?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|steshome: On a good day I could. Not sure about David though ... :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I suggest that you cash your 9 top tricks, David|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jtr: is there a second @c trick?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Please make it clear WHICH David cannot count up to 9.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4 spades, 1 hear, 3 diamonds, 1 club is ..................|pg|| pc|h2|nt|lesrays: Geoff's bid has effectively kept NS out of 3NT|pg|| nt|jtr: I dont have enough money to need to count to 9:(|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|lesrays: had he passed 2@h it would have been easier for them|pg|| nt|brolucius: The opening bid must have shown a heart-minor two-suiter and he was merely playing in the suit where he held four-card support.|pg|| nt|steshome: Good one for Wolfie. Pity for him that they weren't vulnerable ...|pg|| nt|jtr: he will take it anyway|pg|| nt|brolucius: After such a start N-S had very little room to identify game values.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: Let's remember that Liggins has the option to take the match to extra time and penalty shoot-out if they are behind after 4 segments|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: Wolfie is his team's goalkeeper|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAQ97HA4DAK86C743,S832HKJT65D4CKQ82,SKJ4H8732DQ952CA5,ST65HQ9DJT73CJT96|sv|o|nt|odysseus69: next door after S 1H West 1 spade NX south bid 2NT|pg|| nt|vugraphe2: The other table in this room had only just played their 4th board...|pg|| nt|sybarra: And of course Roland always thanks to you for all the work you do in coordinating the vugraph@H |pg|| nt|mdgraham: these 2's and 3's are getting important|pg|| nt|sybarra: last hand of this stanza |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|sybarra: Thanks very much to Ian Mitchel our operator in Stratford-up Avon. Great job!|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|mdgraham: looks like a rather well-times psyche in the other room|pg|| nt|sybarra: Thanks also to my excellent co-commentators: Jon, Ben, David and Mike. fun time all |pg|| nt|benjy: 3@D rubensohl? asking for a stopper|pg|| nt|mdgraham: looks like it |pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: No, 2@H showed a heart-minor two-suiter and East was merely asking to play in the known minor-suit fit.|pg|| nt|sybarra: Finally thanks to Mrs. Helen Schapiro for sponsoring the event, and to the English Bridge Union for bringing the broadcast to BBO |pg|| nt|mdgraham: told 3@C was not psyche, was system|pg|| mb|3S|nt|sybarra: and to our specs, you are the best! great comments, lots of humour |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: and of course, thanks to all the specs...great comments and lots of humour |pg|| nt|mdgraham: by Someone Who Would Know - Mrs. W|pg|| nt|brolucius: Seems an obvious response when you know partner has a 4/5-card minor. It was explained as such in the other room.|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: the other room is on 21 - the grand slam. We wait with baited breath |pg|| nt|sybarra: almost non-stop vugraph for the next few days |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: and David, thx...who else did I miss?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: If nothing else, this is good for the match going into the last (?) set|pg|| nt|vugraphe2: 3d - 'transfer to hearts', stopper asking|pg|| nt|steshome: Roland|pg|| nt|mdgraham: if 2@H was two-suited H/m, then yes.|pg|| nt|Walddk4: There may be a 5th stanza|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|vugraphe2: 2h natural|pg|| nt|j_bgood: the sequence from the OR shows how effective the 2 suiter 2's can be - very difficult tol get to the laydown NT game there|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Double elimination format. Liggins is the undefeated team. The advantage of being undefeated is that in the event that Liggins is behind after 32 boards, they can decide to add an ...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: extra 8 boards to the match|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|odysseus69: they bid the small slam with 1 huff and 1 puff|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sK|nt|brolucius: At the other table, North had to choose between 3@D (an underbid) and 3NT (an overbid), in response to the double.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|odysseus69: now a lengthy pause|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|odysseus69: i favour sppade to J and DJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h6|nt|brolucius: Or possibly 3@H, which might have been the answer.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|sybarra: whatever |pg|| nt|sybarra: thx all, cu later today |pg|| nt|mdgraham: bye Shirley|pg|| nt|mdgraham: the grand slam was flat. Still all to play for in the last set, though. |pg|| nt|odysseus69: bye all|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|Walddk4: Back in 10-15 minutes; do not miss the conclusion!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Thanks to all spectators for watching|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Bye for now|pg|| nt|j_bgood: see you soon|pg|| nt|sybarra: see you all shortly |pg|| nt|mdgraham: the match gets tighter....|pg|| nt|mdgraham: thanks all. Bye for now, back shortly|pg|| mc|9|pg||