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I like your innovative idea ;)
So you say that every no-agreement bid is alertable, either natural or conventional.
Is that consistent with 2000 minute you believe:
"The committee considered situations where
(Quote)Well if the bid is not conventional, and the player can not judge what the bid means in natural system, because he is a beginner or he is tired-confused, maybe opps should make the proper assumptions. What do you think?
I poste…
(Quote)Yes because we have inadmissible and legal. If those two were one term, we would have no consistency problems in those.
Thank you Gordon!
I think that we could say 47F has been applied
LAW 47 - RETRACTION OF CARD PLAYED
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.F. Other Retraction
1. A card may be withdrawn as Law 53B provides.
2. Except as this Law specifies,…(Quote)Very nice methodologically given answer, and complete.
(Quote)Maybe the law makers, believe that once the non-offending side was not enough consecrated to call the TD about the inadmissible call, and therefore they bid over it, the consequence for them could be that the illicit "non-pass" is auth…
A very good practice that has saved me from such problems is Lead validation in Bridgemates options, if of course you use them.
That the score at the other table is 'clearly favorable' means, not necessar…
Thank you Gordon, this completes I think the answer of our case.
We have to read this:
(i) The offending side is awarded the score it would have been allotted as the
consequence of rectifying its infraction.
I think the consequence of the infraction is playing in 6NT d…The consequence of being in 6NT would / should have been down 1. The revoke allowing 6NT to make is not a consequence and totally unrelated to the infraction (use of UI).
(Quote)Yes sir :)
If – on the other hand – declarer does not need the suit in which A and K are missing and can (always) make his contract on the given lead, there is no case for Serious Error, and it is a (normal, balanced) score ad…
(Quote)IMHO, the key words are damage, and consequence (of rectifying its
infraction).First for NOS, as the Expected score (the score that the NOS "should have reached" witho…
@BarkerBridgeTD said:
What about offenders? Do they keep table result after their opponents serious error, or their score is adjusted to 3NT+3 490?Yes.
(Quote)Yes I am sorry for not clarifying. They bid the slam after hesitation that demonstrable suggested action over a logical alternative to stay in 3NT.
(Quote)Natalia welcome at the discussion ;)
(Quote)Thanks Gordon, yes I see it clear now.
Just for clarification:
2H is the lowest sufficient bid but does not specify the same denomination (it specifies spades). 2H is the lowest sufficient bid that names the same denomination so 27B1a does not a…I used to do it until the scoring program at last does it automatically. I think the same algorithm with Senior_Kibitzer:
1)I had for example 2 deals of 24 that a pair took 60%. I look at board matchpoint top, and calculate the 60% of it.…
Ok respect this. Thank you Weejonnie.
Well I joined bridgewinners already, and I have created a general poll. Anfortunately I read Barries post after so I had set both questions from the beggining.
Do you think it's usefull for our discussion, to post the link in this thread, …(Quote)Hi Gordon, thank you very much for your suggestions.
The problem starts from the fact that this tournament was held last weekend, and it was a Greek festival with money prizes. The organizers should have recommend an appeal com…
Thank you all for your answers, I appreciate them.
Well my problem in this case consists from the words demonstrably suggested. Even if poll describes pass as a logical alternative, which we all assume it is a quite possi…
(Quote)Ok thank you all. I was not aware that this is the wrong way to handle such an issue.
I think it's a difficult case and thought it was right to ask for some help. I am really sorry.Actually for history TD has not provide…
(Quote)Sorry for my poor English, but I am not aware of the phrase "Touch" and "Barge Pole" meaning :)
Thank you
(Quote)Yes of course 15-17
In order to apply law 9, there must be an irregularity. And yes truth is that in laws 2017, IB is an infraction... "It is an infraction to make an insufficient bid (see Law 27 for rectification)". This sentence was not in Laws 2007
(Quote)a) The partnership agreement was 'majors'
b) There was no other continuation agreed than preference of a major3 !d was not alerted. So I don't think East has UI, and no gestures about not alerting 2 !d were mentioned. …
(Quote)That was our (3 tournament directors) final decision. But we were not so happy :)
EW where keeping a good score even without double. 3 !h was a worse contract but was never bid during auction.
And if 3 !d was passed from W…(Quote)Yes the agreement was that over 1 !c , 2 !d shows both majors 5+, but East unfortunately forgot it...