JeremyChild
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A couplke of minor points on first read through:
1) 3C as a response to a 2NT opening is dicussed in a section entitled "Announcements – 1NT Openings and Responses" (4E3)
2) Puppet is defined but not used (other than the name "Pu…
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The commentary I refer to is the one issued by the WBF Laws Committee to accompany the release of 2017 Laws of Duplicate Bridge. The laws the same committee produced.
Whilst the commentary is "not part of the 2017 Code" (their…
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I would want to know vulberability and see the rest of the hand - NV, a low doubleton heart and good intermediates might rule out pass as a logical alternative.
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Because that's what the law says.
OK technically it is not AI (as it does not meet the definition in 16A1) but it is not illegal to use it as Law 27B1(a) specifically says that Law 16C does not apply.
On the face if it …
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27D may indeed apply and the director may adjust the score.
The commentary to the 2017 laws makes it clear that: "the information from the insufficient bid remains authorized, i.e. partner is allowed to take into account that there are at…
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Agreed.
In your position I would try to get him to understand, and if I could not I would raise a complaint. If bad behaviour is not dealt with it becomes worse behaviour.
But I'm not you and it's not my club.
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The issue here seems to be that he disagreed with the consequence of the ruling, not with the ruling itself. So clarification of the revoke rules will not help.
As Gordon said:
Players should be ready to accept graciously any recti… -
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Why?
If there is no agreement, they have no right to know what my partner intends by the bid.
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And if partner hasn't (because that's not what she thought it meant)? Am I not in danger of unnecessarily giving MI?
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Thanks, Robin.
I am sure a lot of thought will have gone into the new rules. It would be interesting to know why the changes were made - if we know the rationale it's easier to apply the rules in borderline cases.
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I quote from the EBU's club etiquette guide:
_Avoid asking questions about the bidding while it is continuing, unless you really need to know the answer in order to decide what your next call should be (because if you then pass, your part…
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Clubs already have this option - they don't have to follow the blue book. I think most do in principle but not in practice, which causes issues at times. Perhaps we should be offering them an alternative "simple blue book"?
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Of course I meant takeout!
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Fascinating!
We obviously play in vastly different arenas, because I come aross it all the time. I can also see no benefit in not doing so (if you have a wriggle).
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Except where it doesn't, as far as I can see.
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OK I understand now, although I'm not sure I'd call that common bridge knowledge. I've certainly never heard of it (which means nothing), and I'm willing to bet that most players in my club have not. I feel a poll coming on!
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So (say) South opens 1NT, West doubles and North bids 2C.
I don't understand how North can intend to redouble next - that would require the opponents to double the 2C, and anyway if North doesn't have clubs, playing in clubs wo…
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You learn something new every day!
Thanks, Gordon.
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Can they do that?
I thought events had to be processed for the NGS with limited excpetions which had to be claimed in advance.
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LOL
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I had exactly this situation (different suit!) happen again yesterday at the North Devon Congress.
It still seemed just as unfair.
I think there is mileage in revisiting the revoke law - I will pontificate.
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It depends.
If South's attention is drawn to it by anything his partner says or does (inclduing the alert and/or explanation) then no.
I'm unsure what happens if opponents say something like "is that different because of the doubl…
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I will if I use it. We've just lost a pair so back to even numbers.
Jeremy
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Thanks, Gordon
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Thanks, Robin.
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Does this exist in the rules/regulations (white book?) anywhere, or is it just custom and practice?
I want to be ready with an answer when someone asks "why?"
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We can - but that introduces complication and a risk of error (creating a rematch). Maybe EBUScore can help by pointing out any rematches? I'll investgate.
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Thanks Paul.
I'd thought about that as a solution - we would of course have to explain it to everyone, not just the pair in question.
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Thank's Robin - that's really helpful.
Do you know if EBUScore Swiss Pairs can cope with assigning differently to their actual score?
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We're doing this, but finding 2 standby pairs could be tricky.