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  • I'd have to have recourse to 6D2 and say that they are playing the hand from a 'sorted deck' (a pack of cards not randomized from its prior condition) but that is definitely stretching it. Everything Gordon says about the Law is right; they weren't…
  • If it isn't natural (defined as showing 3+ cards) then it is alertable. Assuming that this was their system - i.e. the bid showed a stopper which could be Ax/ Kx rather than length, then yes it should have been alerted. The TD/AC have to consider …
  • ais123: If I were teaching the alert rules to new-ish players, I would just go with the following: Alert - if it isn't natural - if opponents might be surprised by what it means - If you aren't sure whether or not it needs alerting (e.g. becaus…
  • Tag - there is definitely a point at which an announcement morphs into an alert, and sometimes the rules are not entirely explicit on when that should be. For example, I play a 2C response to 1NT as promising at least invitational values, but the L…
  • A few comments. In this forum (for example) you are entirely welcome to question to rules. They will improve the more people raise questions/issues or disagreements - even if they aren't changed as a consequence, the L&E will always think abo…
  • I think it's too late to alert the pass as 'may not have diamonds', also I don't think this is necessarily required - the pass says 'if this ends the auction I am happy' which seems to me to be the unalertable meaning of pass. The multi will be ale…
  • I play 1H - 1S as artificial and 1!H - 1NT as 5+ spades. There are lots of possible continuations (in fact in two partnerships I play different continuations by opener). There is quite a good argument for not playing this by a passed hand, so the …
    in Law 20F1 Comment by Frances May 2019
  • The outcome of what you have said is correct, but I think Gordon's explanation of the motivation is right. It is not so much that you are 'entitled' to protect yourself by delaying, it is that the old Laws gave an advantage to people who didn't cal…
  • I don't think it's routine. And I think a poll along the lines of 'we haven't discussed what pass means here, do you stick or pull'' is entirely relevant. I would also ask if there's been any discussion about 1D (natural) 2D overcall (majors) doub…
  • @weejonnie said: "NS have never discussed how UNT would be played in the case of a potentially short club." I believe statistics show that having 6 clubs is more likely than just having two. That depends on the short club. If the only …
  • What ais523 just said
  • You are right, that the existence of the illegal agreement could have affected the results on other boards. I think adjusting on that basis typically comes into the 'too difficult' category.
  • They are, by default, surely Alice and Bob (and hence eligible to play in mixed events)
    in Bots Comment by Frances April 2019
  • AlanB: you are talking about a different auction. I don't think a double of a 1-level opening is alertable as long as it is ostensibly a 'normal' t/o double and 4th hand is expected to bid. If you are playing 1NT 2H x as 'any 10+' then is that tak…
  • From a philosophical viewpoint, if more and more people are bidding in a particular way, that argues for it not being alertable, rather than the opposite - alerts are supposed to draw the opponents' attention to anything unusual. We used to say suc…
  • Is the 'pet hate' of yours because boards get fouled as a consequence, or do you just not like it for some other reason? As long as people are careful, I don't see the problem and if it adds to their enjoyment of the evening, why not? There have b…
    in Sit outs Comment by Frances April 2019
  • Well, no, you will find about 16 useful posts about it, 115 irrelevant and unhelpful posts about it, and 115 posts about something entirely different.
  • I do. I'll change to something else when it stops working.
  • @pg10003 said: OK, most think this just bridge ... but how hard would it be to say "15 or 16 with 4 hearts" if that is your agreement? Because it's not our agreement. Our agreement is that it shows what we evaluate to be in the bottom hal…
  • +2 It's a common treatment in America that "4th suit" bids are natural in an already game forcing auction e.g. (uncontested) 1H - 2C - 2S - 3D would be 4th suit forcing for virtually every English player I know and natural for many Americans.
  • @Robin_BarkerTD said: I think it is a common understanding that (based on a three-point range) players will accept with all but the lowest point count, and invite accordingly. Bear in mind that with the common ranges of 12-14, 13-15, 14-16…
  • I play a method similar to this after a 1NT opening - some of opener's rebids are range-specific and we alert and announce as above: "minimum 4 hearts" or "maximum 5-card major" or whatever. I have to admit I always thought it 'obvious' or 'general…
  • "W doubled and thought the N/S partnership could not bid again after their mid auction discussion." W was wrong. N/S shouldn't be arguing with each other during the auction, that's certainly true. And South can't bid based on what he's learned fr…
  • We don't know what the East or West hands actually were. If East, over the 2H bid, has a 'decent hand' with 4 good hearts, then unless that's strong NT values or more, most people would be passing 2H. It is West, in the pass-out seat, who I would …
  • @Robin_BarkerTD said: Isn't that what the WBFLC minute in the White Book says: The Committee ruled that the card is deemed to be played when Declarer’s RHO follows to the trick. That's not how I interpreted this. I read this as…
  • If everyone plays a form of Precision, I would certainly have a regulation that says a natural 1C bid was alertable. In much the same way that a Polish 1C opening isn't alertable in Poland, or a weak NT is (or at least used to be) alertable in Fra…
  • What Gordon says, although if N/S 'OK'd' the score before EW had a chance to check it (which does happen a fair amount even though technically it shouldn't) then NS Av-, EW Av+
  • See the famous Hallberg Double Squeeze Claim....
  • What Gordon said. I think it's more interesting if East doesn't have the ace of diamonds...
  • I echo the stratification. In my experience, (at least some of) the weaker players like playing against the stronger players particularly if they get their own masterpoint awards. I remember playing at the club at one point, conceding 470 on one …